Used heavy equipment is sort of like a used car. A machine might cost $25,000 but require $5,000 in repairs the first year of ownership and ongoing maintenance and repairs. A new machine is more likely to be trouble free and might be fixed for free if there's a faulty part. Anyway, I've been reluctant to pull the trigger on that purchase.
Another, relatively "new" option for heavy equipment is Chinese made stuff. For example, there's a company called Rippa that has dealers in the US that sells machines that are the equivalent of a used Kubota for maybe $10,000 less, like their R18 is in the $17,500 price range currently. The machine uses a Kubota engine and Eaton hydraulic pump, so the core pieces are proven. A major downside is the used market for them seems non-existent, so it's hard to say how long it would take to unload it when I was done with all my projects. That said, $17,500 is very cheap for all the capability an excavator has and it's almost a no-brainer for me to buy one.
I think these Chinese excavators are a good example of what's coming next. The US economy and system is in full retard mode. The entire economy is focused on very high cost, resource intensive negative ROI nonsense, like LLM models in the workplace, data centers, spying on people, and mass murder overseas for Israel. Additionally, the economy is loaded with parasitism and rent seeking.
At the very same time, good old Mr. Chang from China is trying to give you a really good deal on an excavator or some other value-adding tool that can solve your real world problems. I recall the same scenario with Japanese cars when I was a kid back in the 70s and 80s. Initially there was skepticism and incumbent car makers paid PR people to undermine the reputation of the Japanese vehicles, but inevitably real-world experience wins out, actually the formula is like this:
- Initially 80% of people believe the con, and 20% of people form their own opinion;
- Over 1-2 years, the 80% who always believe authorities update their opinion based on real-world experience.
- Finally the positions reverse, so 20% of people are in the cult, 80% match up with the original 20%.
Good examples of this were provided by "W" Bush Iraq war and the COVID hysteria. The AI hysterical psychosis is just beginning that transition.
Anyway the guiding star for people with respect to Japanese vehicles in the 70s early 2000s was value and reliability, or an overall practical and pragmatic outlook on life. Today, Japanese manufacturers are like their Western counterparts, although the car manufacturers' management is not quite as stupid as GM's or Ford's or Chrysler/Stellantis whatever. Toyota, for example skipped the EV debacle, which maybe will bankrupt Ford eventually. That said, the Japanese companies seem to be following the rent-seeking, low value approach of western companies.
The "green field" is now that pragmatic, back to basics, reliability/value scenario.
